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#1 bigevilf5

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 03:54 PM

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Cevo Week 2: PS vs. FyC

Map Version: v6.61c
Mode: -CM Captain's Mode
Round: Week 2

Replay Download: th_us.png Poker Stars vs th_us.png FyC e-Sports

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#2 benyu

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:20 PM

funny chat!

60 minutes in i believe

sp: i can't seem to find your wards??  

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:24 PM

Considering it's 80 minutes it's honestly not that bad a replay.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:26 PM

sniper? wat

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(b1u3 @ Sep 9 2009, 01:26 AM) View Post

sniper? wat



PS always uses sniper now. Allllwaysss.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:51 PM

slardar/sp/cm/sniper/and... CW or Rhasta is their bread and butter. they said so.

and so far, won every single damn game with that line up even when they're behind in kills.

Edited by WinkieDuck, 08 September 2009 - 09:52 PM.


#7 Khaar

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:02 PM

lol, sniper = must watch.

Hopefully some teams start using him more so that all those "sniper suckz" idiots shut the hell up and realize that he is underrated.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Khaar @ Sep 9 2009, 02:02 AM) View Post

Hopefully some teams start using him more so that all those "sniper suckz" idiots shut the hell up and realize that he is underrated.

you not ps so you can't use sniper sorry



on topic: This was a really entertaining game, well played by both sides

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 03:51 AM

FyC should have won, some shitty moves cost them the game. PS as a more experienced team kind of initiated better.

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 04:09 AM

the period where potm snatched a triple kill around mid game, they should have won it after that..

but johnnyutah being johnnyutah carried back?

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 05:04 AM

they could have probably gone mass heals/push and won the game

look at the aoe on sent

but hey,, nice to see ps winning

#12 Murdock_

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 01:15 PM

I need serious psychological help. I am having a hallucination that sniper was picked!!!!!1

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE(Murdock_ @ Sep 9 2009, 05:15 PM) View Post

I need serious psychological help. I am having a hallucination that sniper was picked!!!!!1


http://nadota.com/replay-archive/292-nation-wars-ps-vs-sxint

http://nadota.com/replay-archive/276-natio...-ps-vs-brazil-a

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE(Akiri-X @ Sep 9 2009, 02:19 PM) View Post


There are also probably a dozen idecs where loda picked sniper, but he's not like other heroes.  He won't become the next cw whom people were like "Oh Yeah cw sux too nerfed" because they didn't really ever play him, which became "OOH CW OP NP".  Sniper on the other hand is so ground into the heads of "pros" that he sucks that no one sees these replays and goes "Ooh sniper nice", it's "WTF SNIPER WON?".

I do think PS playing with him so much is showing sniper's strengths at least; which might lead to people understanding him as a hero and where he does do well.  I'd doubt anyone will ever cry "Sniper imba", but maybe people will see the nuances he fits into, rather  than shunning him as a hero.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 03:56 AM

QUOTE(FansRus @ Sep 9 2009, 02:38 PM) View Post

There are also probably a dozen idecs where loda picked sniper, but he's not like other heroes.  He won't become the next cw whom people were like "Oh Yeah cw sux too nerfed" because they didn't really ever play him, which became "OOH CW OP NP".  Sniper on the other hand is so ground into the heads of "pros" that he sucks that no one sees these replays and goes "Ooh sniper nice", it's "WTF SNIPER WON?".

I do think PS playing with him so much is showing sniper's strengths at least; which might lead to people understanding him as a hero and where he does do well.  I'd doubt anyone will ever cry "Sniper imba", but maybe people will see the nuances he fits into, rather  than shunning him as a hero.


Difference being CW is an outstanding ganker and Sniper has nothing to distinguish him as a better carry over any other agility hero.  Btw, fix your internet.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 05:43 AM

"I predicted this exact lineup"

It always nice to know how you are going to lose =P

Edit: Oh Canada, we love our beaver!

Edited by Goldbond-Powder, 10 September 2009 - 05:45 AM.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 07:03 AM

QUOTE(Dom2x @ Sep 10 2009, 01:56 PM) View Post

Difference being CW is an outstanding ganker and Sniper has nothing to distinguish him as a better carry over any other agility hero.  Btw, fix your internet.

810 attack range + 40% chance ranged ministun + 655 dmg 2500 range nuke. Those are pretty unique for a carry, you bet they distinguish him over other agility heroes.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE(Dom2x @ Sep 10 2009, 06:56 AM) View Post

Difference being CW is an outstanding ganker and Sniper has nothing to distinguish him as a better carry over any other agility hero.  Btw, fix your internet.

I hear being able to drop a DoT on towers and walk away doesn't distinguish him at all.

Sniper's ability to take down buildings is ridiculous and that's why he does so well for the way PS plays in this game -- you'll notice that they suicide for towers/rax repeatedly, because at the end of the day that's how you win. I already posted this on NADotA, but I'll repeat it here: FyC would've won if they'd focused buildings instead of chasing heroes around when they pushed.

Edited by Legato_Blue0312, 10 September 2009 - 09:40 AM.


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Posted 10 September 2009 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Legato_Blue0312 @ Sep 10 2009, 10:40 AM) View Post

I hear being able to drop a DoT on towers and walk away doesn't distinguish him at all.

Sniper's ability to take down buildings is ridiculous and that's why he does so well for the way PS plays in this game -- you'll notice that they suicide for towers/rax repeatedly, because at the end of the day that's how you win. I already posted this on NADotA, but I'll repeat it here: FyC would've won if they'd focused buildings instead of chasing heroes around when they pushed.



Bear.  Anything Sniper can do, another hero can do better.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 11:27 AM

Except snipe.




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